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Saiyuki people, it's time for a poll:

So, [livejournal.com profile] emungere and I have been pondering these important questions about Sanzo and Hakkai.

[Poll #646083]

Do feel free to elaborate with comments.

Date: 2006-01-05 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hydr0phobia.livejournal.com
Question #1: yes. You just have to hit all his pain buttons and hold all of his, ah, atrocities over his head until he is guilted into a dark corner. Then, prevent each and every one of his subsequent suicide attempts and possibly make a bunch of ridiculous promises that he'll invest in anyway.

Break him down psychologically/emotionally/mentally/etcetera and REBUILD HIM.

...as ridiculous as I sound right now: it could work.


Question #2: sure! He'd just angst hard about it and deal with it in the most irrational manner possible. Or go stand on the shores of that one river at Egypt. Or...whatever. Issues to work through and that lot. Regardless, Sanzo won't change for love! And love won't change for him! Or...yes.

...but really: Sanzo isn't an airless vault when it comes to emotions. He's perceptive enough to see it in other people and he's working through the special sort of stupidity he's got that wouldn't let him see observe those symptoms in himself. I believe that he's a less stupid guy than he was at the beginning of the series--he knows that there are things of which he can't afford to let go. He's handling things maturely and I think he's got issues trusting his own feelings. He has to come to terms with the fact before moving to do anything about it.

When in doubt he will someday ask himself: WWKD? WHAT WOULD KOUMYOU DO!?

...and this comment is crack-filled. APOLOGIES.

-Neo

Date: 2006-01-05 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tochira.livejournal.com
--What she said, about Question 2. XD I do think Sanzo is scarily perceptive when it comes to other people, but rock-stupid about himself (I can understand that, I'm the same way to a certain degree)... but he's getting better! Goku will wear him down yet, ahaha.

and yes, WWKD? Eventually he'll trust than answer instead of grumbling that it only gets people killed.

Date: 2006-01-05 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tochira.livejournal.com
*/that/ answer. Argh.

Date: 2006-01-06 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cicer.livejournal.com
WWKD? WHAT WOULD KOUMYOU DO!?

I demand a shirt with this on it. Seriously. Koumyou is totally the best guide ever.

But I don't have a Koumyou icon! This is unacceptable!

Date: 2006-01-06 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louiselux.livejournal.com
#1: mmm, it sounds like you have a plan, although a painful one. Poor Hakkai. *clings to him*

#2: I think I'll take WWKD as my new guide to life the universe and everything. I wonder how much he thinks that already, and if there will ever be a change from him being as Koumyou told him to be (non-attached, strong) to actully being *like* Koumyou, who seems to be very accepting of his own attachments. Like you say, that's happening already to Sanzo.

Really no apologies needed - I'm not even sure my reply makes proper sense, but I'll go with it for now. :D

Date: 2006-01-08 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistressrenet.livejournal.com
WWKD is the best saying ever. But yeah-- he's definitely respectful of others too-- he's so, so decent to that woman who keeps washing the laundry for her absent lover, and some of that is that he's just polite, but I think to an extent he honors that very much.

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