What day is it?

[louiselux]

I have a forum meeting this afternoon till 6.30. I'm thinking longingly already of the buffet and wine afterwards. Then off to G's after work for more wine and nattering and a night in her spare bed, so no NaNoing or internet for me tonight.

I'm going to be doing the crack_van thing for Good Omens in December, which is earlier than I thought. Like, a week away. I'd better start to think of ways to sum the fandom up. It another of those fandoms, like Eroica, where there's a definite yaoi/slash divide. Or not divide, exactly, more a difference of approach. Must think about that some more.

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[afrai.livejournal.com]

where there's a definite yaoi/slash divide. Or not divide, exactly, more a difference of approach.

Hah! There is, isn't there? I should really stop thinking of it as the good fic/fic that sux0r divide.

[louiselux.livejournal.com]

Hmm, the quality thing. I don't want to get bashed in the head by a load of fans, but I don't like yaoi-style fic at all. Some of it's badly written, but then so is lots of slash. The thing is, even the well written ones I still tend to think of as poor quality because they tend to mangle the characters so much.

Bu then I've read yaoi in other fandoms (Eroica) where this doesn't happen so much.

I know next to nothing about the yaoi side of the force, except that it concentrates on sex a lot more (it says in the yaoi manifesto which I must dig out) and there are definite conventions in relationships between characters, where you have a uke and seme, relating to the terms 'top' and 'bottom'. I've probably got them the wrong way round. Manga fan writers who come into the Good Omens fandom generally seem to filter their view of the characters through their love of the aesthetics of manga and anime, which is the pretty, and through yaoi story conventions which seem to mostly demand a butch (yet slender) uke and a willowy weepy seme, (as before, probably wrong way round), thus resulting in fics that make you wonder which book they've been reading because that skinny blonde weeping angel certainly doesn't come from Good Omens.

Yaoi writers seem to have more defined conventions in their fics that I'm guessing come from the conventions in manga and anime, although I could be wrong. Slash writers don't seem to have such defined notions, although there are recognisable elements to slash story such as making the relationship the central element to a story to the exclusion of other plot elements.

[afrai.livejournal.com]

The thing is, even the well written ones I still tend to think of as poor quality because they tend to mangle the characters so much.

*nods* I dunno; I suppose yaoi is a form of its own, and so deserves respect, but I don't think it works when yaoi writers apply that formula to slash fandoms. Square peg, meet round hole.

[louiselux.livejournal.com]

Square peg, meet round hole.

Yeah, that's pretty much my view as well.