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Am waiting for a short person with a moustache to come and have a meeting with me about some Very Exciting References I have that he doesn't. He's very sweet. I think he probably won't turn up though, because we've developed this game of saying we'll meet and then mutually ignoring it. It doesn't knock my duck off though, as my mum would say, as he's only down the corridor.

Life on Mars is sooo slashy. Sam Tyler is like this exotic creature from another planet, all clean shaven and short haired and sensitive. I love the attention to detail in this program, because he even looks physically different from the others somehow, healthier, with his better skin and teeth and hair. How can his grumpy-bastard boss fail to be charmed, in the end? That's right, he can't. Are they doing it on purpose? [livejournal.com profile] olympia_m woke me up to the potential last week and yay, last night's episode just cemented it that little bit more. Also, John Simm is very cute.

Update - the man came to the meeting, at last, after all these months! It was a good meeting.

It occurs to me that I haven't written in a film or television fandom for years, not since the X-Files. I don't know if this is to do with any differences between these types of fandoms, for example, are there are easier points of entry into lit and manga fandoms? Maybe I'm less likely to fall in love with a character on screen than on a page - but that can't be true because I love the Doctor and Benton Fraser and Greg House, but have not wanted to write them at all. Maybe it's to do with what stimulates me more - characters created and presented with either words or pictures? Hmmm, I'm sure I had more thoughts, but I'm not getting any further with this so I'd better leave it here.

Date: 2006-01-17 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com
I have a harder time reading fic about TV and movie characters - there's something about seeing them that makes it that one step closer to reality, and thus one step closer to being a real person. I know intellectually the Doctor is no less fictional than Sanzo, but ... it still feels different.

Date: 2006-01-17 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louiselux.livejournal.com
Yes, I definitely think the reality thing plays a large part. Maybe them being 'real' people on screen makes them seem so much more 'finished', somehow? So there's less room to fill in the gaps. You're also less able to internalise them and make them exactly how you would like, in that very personal way you can do with text-based characters, even manga characters.

Date: 2006-01-17 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com
Yeah. I can't read reality-based fic at all - anything that anyone writes, even in parody, about the Mythbusters? Nope. Filmed sources are just one step away from that. I'm trying to think and see where movies with a larger base of unreality, like big-budget SF and fantasy movies, sit on that continuum for me. I want to say that they're easier than more real ones, but I can't say because I read so little fic in general (most of it manga or anime-based) that I don't really have much of a basis for comparison.

(A good part of why I read so little fic is that I'm attuned to the characters, and if they act the least little bit OOC (in my opinion), then it's blown.)

Date: 2006-01-18 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistressrenet.livejournal.com
Yep! It's just the same for me.

Date: 2006-01-17 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daegaer.livejournal.com
I've always found text-based fandoms easier than TV or film ones - I don't think I can really write anything for a TV fandom, as I said in my shocking confession in Sahara! I usually get minorly freaked out if I ask for prompts and someone wants a TV fandom fic. I just find it easier to get into characters' heads if they're presented as words (or words and pictures in manga) - maybe the ony reason I can write WK is that although it's mainly TV series, the characters aren't played by real people (well, their voices are, obviously, but there's an extra layer), but are clearly the 2-dimensional* people from the manga, moving around.

*And how!

Date: 2006-01-17 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louiselux.livejournal.com
Oh, we were shocked! Although, not really. :D Although, wasn't there your Smallville AU, I seem to remember?

Anime is a weird cross between the two - and I'm the same. It doesn't count as a TV/film fandom because it's not live action, it's still just drawings moving about. And in fact I love to write Samurai Champloo fic (not that I often get round to it).

Maybe it's the realness of seeing actual people instead of imagning them - I don't know why though. A character in a book or on TV can be equally well-fleshed out, it's just that you don't have a visual image of the one in the book. Does that make a difference? But then, you get a visual image in manga, yet that doesn't put me off writing them.

Maybe, oddly, TV and film characters are less real, because of the processes of presenting and watching them? Can you really lose yourself in a TV show the way you can in a book?



Date: 2006-01-17 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myroughdraft.livejournal.com
Wow, those guys look so English. Why don't we get TV shows with slash potential?

I mean, we did a long time ago..

Date: 2006-01-17 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louiselux.livejournal.com
Life on Mars is the slashiest thing I've seen in a long time in the UK - mostly cos it has the cop love/hate relationship going on. Mmmm.

Date: 2006-01-17 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamjar.livejournal.com
I have a thing for John Simms that goes way back. I don't know what it is about him, but I'm pretty much going to tune in to anything he's in. It helps that he's usually in good things, though.

Did you see him in... oh what was it called, that political thriller a few years back. Power of something? he played a journalist, there was a big conspiracy over a woman's death, but it was really about oil and it was all good.

Date: 2006-01-18 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louiselux.livejournal.com
I don't remember him before this, really, but I like him a lot. He's so good in Life on Mars.

Date: 2006-01-17 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graculus.livejournal.com
I thought this week's episode was much slashier, since we have Sam and his boss getting in each other's personal space all the time, not to mention the sublimation fight scene. ;)

Date: 2006-01-18 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louiselux.livejournal.com
It was all those little meaningful glances too, especially at the end. He looked so happy to be rescued by his boyfriend! I also like the way his boss gets right in his face, and he does it a lot.

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