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louiselux ([personal profile] louiselux) wrote2002-04-04 04:54 pm

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'Ben' by Michael Jackson is stuck in my head like chewing gum to the carpet. Aaargh. Did you know that that song was about his rat? Amazing. Spent most of today doing beta at work. How satisfying to get it done, after deleting it all by mistake yesterday. My head's in a bit of a whirl this week - I feel all fretful and like I can't concentrate. I'm sure this is down to reading too much slash recently. When I do that, it's as though my imagination gets too full, and it's all I can think about. My new West Wing fad is the cause.

In last night's episode of 'Manchild', two of the male characters were fantasising about lesbians to each other. It made me think about how acceptable that is, for men to be into gay women, it's seen as normal. How abnormal it would be considered if it had been two women having a similar conversation, but about gay men. I've never seen anything like that on TV or in films. I can't help feeling a bit sidelined.

[identity profile] iibnf.livejournal.com 2002-04-04 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a member of the rat club. Do you have any idea how many of the rats are called Ben? Nearly as many as are called Basil.

Oh, Rats.

[identity profile] calligrafiti.livejournal.com 2002-04-08 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The song "Ben" was also sung by Michael Jackson for the movie, Ben. You can get more details at the Internet Movie Database entry: http://us.imdb.com/Credits?0068264

The movie is about a boy and his rat. I have no idea which came first--MJ's pet song or the movie. By the way, your phrase, "like chewing gum to the carpet," is great! Very evocative.

It made me think about how acceptable that is, for men to be into gay women, it's seen as normal. How abnormal it would be considered if it had been two women having a similar conversation, but about gay men.


I felt that way, too. Now that I've been exploring the slash side of fandom for a few years I feel a bit less marginalized. That doesn't mean I've seen this sort of thing more in the media, but at least I know that there are a lot of women out there who find it interesting. That's one of the reasons I like slash fandom. It's nice to be able to post to an email list, "Sir Ian had quite the hot fella with him at the Oscars" and have the respondents say, "You betcha--quite the yummy twosome," rather than "ewwww." It's still not something I bring up at work, though.

Re: Oh, Rats.

[identity profile] louiselux.livejournal.com 2002-04-09 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
It's still not something I bring up at work, though.

No, me either. *shudder* I do have plenty of outlets for my slashy needs online though. I suppose I was feeling a resentful because I was having to listen to the old cliche of men fantasing about lesbians. A female scriptwriter would probably get a lot of stick for writing the 'yang' scene to this, and would it make it onto tv where most channels are still controlled by men? Yes, I was definitely feeling resentful. *gets of high horse*